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NCDD-DISCUSSION  January 2007, Week 4

NCDD-DISCUSSION January 2007, Week 4

Subject:

Re: presidential candidates' different uses of dialogue-speak

From:

Don Klein <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Don Klein <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 23 Jan 2007 12:35:41 -0500

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In your mind, "politics" appears to be limited to win-lose power 
manipulations.  There's no doubt in my mind that politics includes a large 
dose of win-lose power games.  To continue and maintain the political "game" 
, however, politicians also must figure out when and how to engage in 
meaningful dialogue, seek out areas of agreement, and even compromise.  You 
might want to find a description of how the US Senate operates.  Sorry I 
don't have a specific referencee to suggest.  The material I've read about 
the "behind the scenes" Senate suggests that for it to function effectively 
senators must engage in an intriguing combination of win/lose and win/win 
activities.  I believe that this combination is required of most political 
figures in our society.  - Don

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Justin T. Sampson" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 2:00 AM
Subject: Re: [NCDD-LIST] presidential candidates' different uses of 
dialogue-speak


> On 1/21/07, Don Klein <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Justin, I wonder if  you're open to dialogue on this point of view, which
>> seems to be expressing a fixed set of ideas about an entity in your mind
>> called "politician." Cheers - Don Klein
>
> Of course! :) Though to clarify, I'll admit to a fixed set of ideas
> about "politics" rather than "politicians". I'm not excited about
> politics as an area to expend energy for dialogue. I'm eager to have
> dialogue with politically-active people, but dialogue advocated in a
> political campaign strikes me as disingenuous and distracting. More to
> the point, politics is a game of power over others, which is not
> conducive to human connection.
>
> Thanks to Sandy for a lively topic!
>
> Cheers,
> Justin
>
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Justin T. Sampson" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 2:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NCDD-LIST] presidential candidates' different uses of
>> dialogue-speak
>>
>> > Hi folks!
>> >
>> > As a Libertarian, I'm skeptical about *any* politician engaging in
>> > real dialogue. Politics is inherently special-interest-driven,
>> > divisive, and win-lose.
>> >
>> > I'm more hopeful about dialogue *replacing* politics!
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Justin :)
>
>
> -- 
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